Sale of 10 meter rigs...interesting.

[w8lgz]

Just thinking about this.......

Since the sun spots have been getting better, I've noticed a lot of single band 10 meter rigs, HTX-100, HTX-10, etc, being listed for sale at greatly inflated prices...in the area of $150.00+/-. I find it interesting that during the sun spot minimum there were next to nobody selling these rigs and when they did, they were priced reasonably...in the $70.00 to $100.00 range. Supply and Demand? Maybe. I think there are other motivations for waiting to sell......$$

[K8EEI]

 I think it is like the stock market. I noticed it when I put an HTX 100 on ePray a few months ago . I figured I would get maybe around 70 - 90 for it and it sold for over 140 . Older HF rigs are going for more money , too . Maybe it is our almost worthless dollar that is getting more worthless.

    Oh well , maybe  at the end of this solar cycle I can buy one for 70 - 90 again .

  73 de K8EEI  Tony in NE Ohio

[W2IBC]

ebay is a huge problem for the inflated used radio prices. same radios i picked up for 150-250 bucks now i see listed for 500-600-700 bucks.

[G0DJA]

Over here we are often told that, over there in the good 'ol US of A, the market rules as king.

So, taking that point of view, over inflated prices are a sign of over stimulated demand.  If someone is prepared to pay then that's the price for the good or service.

Dave (G0DJA)

[w8lgz]

That's true, Dave. The market does seem to rule here. Although, the market is way too greedy at times for my liking. The over stimulated demand could be a factor, absolutely. However, I can't get past the nagging feeling that greed is playing a bigger role. Who really knows?

Jim - W8LGZ

[W2IBC]

That's true, Dave. The market does seem to rule here. Although, the market is way too greedy at times for my liking. The over stimulated demand could be a factor, absolutely. However, I can't get past the nagging feeling that greed is playing a bigger role. Who really knows?

Jim - W8LGZ

its greed. people wanting damn near as much for a 30 year old used radio as it sold for new.

its greed and ebay is really pushing the damn greed and it sickens me.

[VE3FMC]

That's true, Dave. The market does seem to rule here. Although, the market is way too greedy at times for my liking. The over stimulated demand could be a factor, absolutely. However, I can't get past the nagging feeling that greed is playing a bigger role. Who really knows?

Jim - W8LGZ

its greed. people wanting damn near as much for a 30 year old used radio as it sold for new.

its greed and ebay is really pushing the damn greed and it sickens me.

A lot of it is greed by sellers. However when someone lists an older rig on EBay and the clowns start bidding it up and up and up you can not begrudge the seller.

Some people are just plain stupid when it comes to buying older rigs. Whether they figure it will be a collectors item or something special.

FT-101's are a prime example. Man there must be 1000's of those old rigs sitting in closets and basements. Someone decides to sell it and lists it for $350 and people are coming out of the woodwork to buy it at that price. 

Also supply and demand decides prices on some radios. HTX-100's, single band radio. But for the guy who can only do HF on 10 meters he thinks this is the way to go. So he bids and bids and wins one for $140. Meanwhile he could have bought an older Kenwood TS-120 or other older good used rigs that cover all the HF bands for about $100 more!

Live and learn and some people are slow learners IMO 

[N5CAR]

I had coffee with a guy the other day who hit the nail on the head......if it's YOURS you want dollars.....if it's THEIRS, you want to pay Pennies...although I can't see paying $3,000 for an all mode rig, the guy who owns it thinks its worth it.

[N6VHF]

Yeah...eBay....strange things happen on eBay.

I have sold some radios on eBay and ended up getting more for them used than I paid for them new.  At first I considered ending the auction early because people were bidding too much for it.  But my friend talked me out of it by saying, 'Hey, they know what they are doing.  They apparently want the thing.  You aren't twisting their arm.'  So yeah, more than once, I have sold something and still ended up feeling guilty about the closing price. 

And on another note, the 10 meter radios are also popular for other reasons.  A lot of people use them for IF radios for VHF/UHF and microwave transverters.  So even when 10 is dead, there should still be a decent market for them.  Maybe people just haven't been able to find any on sale lately and there is a need for them???  Just a thought.

[K4KLB]

I have not purchased a thing off of e-bay in years due to the super-inflated prices. It isn't just ham equipment. It is darn near everything! Greed is certainly a factor when they set super high reserves but I am sure some folks have more than one account and/or a friend who will aide in bidding it up as well. I have no idea why in the world why someone will pace a bid and jack the auction price on themselves in the end with 6 days left on the auction. To some winning the auction is more important than the price. Essentially, a gambling problem.

[KC2BOB]

Ebay is still good for finding the odd bargain.  I recently bought an FT-8800 for $199 shipped and a SP-2000 for $125.  I will no longer sell on Ebay though as they insist that Paypal is preferred choice of payment and the fees are outrageous.  Paypal is of course an Ebay owned company! 

Hams should migrate from Ebay to a Ham Only auction site (if someone will start one).  There are some sites that claim to be Ham auction sites but they are in reality mere reflectors of the listings on Ebay.

Although I do search for bargains on Ebay I have to admit that I hate the corporate giant that it is.

[KD5NR]

Ever notice the difference in price for Motorola gear depending on whether it's listed as ham gear or Business/Industrial ?

[KD8BIG]

I've made hundreds of contacts on 10 meters via my FT-8900. I have made tripled that number with my Ft-897D.
Good luck.
73, Mark

[K0HB]

Bought a "refurb" Icom 775DSP back about 14 years ago.  Finally upgraded to an FTdx-5000 last summer.  Put the 775 on eBay with no reserve.  Sold it for more than I paid. 

Moral of the story?

People will pay what they think something is worth.  Those who yell "greed" are just pissed that others are willing to pay more than they are willing to pay.

It's called "supply and demand".  Get used to it.

[KF5KGN]

EBay can experience what any auction might in the way of a feeding frenzy or complete indifference.     The buyer/penny and the seller/dollar suggestion certainly holds true in many cases.     Because the Fed and their puppetmasters continue to attempt to manipulate all markets and produce dollars like toilet paper, sellers require more devalued dollars for the same value.     To oversimplify; the price of oil has not increased, the value of the dollar has decreased.     I have seen phenomenal buys on eBay and I have seen people spend far more than that item costs in a store and they have to pay shipping on top of the absurdly high price.     Supply and demand is always a factor but, frequently that feeding frenzy or indifference tosses in the proverbial monkeywrench.